“There are definitely people who, you walk down a hall, and they’re shaking their head,” she says. They feel that “this is not what you should be doing.”
This is sad, and nonsensical. The arbiters of what does and doesn’t merit research are grant-awarding bodies and commercial investors. We all end up in our respective fields through our own experiences, and it’s odd to declare that somebody else is working on uncovering knowledge that one doesn’t approve of. It’s all knowledge, we can take it or leave it. And we can’t force scientists to study what we want them to – it is far from a democracy anyway, but the idea that someone else’s research holds less value than one’s own isn’t for them to decide.
It’s as foolish as the medical student who told me while we were both in our 2nd year, that it was wrong of me to study engineering because I *should have* used my intellect to study medicine. I asked him where he thought hospitals came from.
Why is it that these scientists study geo-engineering (which is good to learn, no doubt) but do not REALLY study how to make the best nuclear reactor and the best battery, cheaper solar, wind, etc? Obviously, the solution is to not allow all the leaders of enviro orgs, and policy makers that denounce Gen 4 nuclear. Of course, the world has been divided over much less important issues and so, we’d have a hard time figuring out how to “not allow”. I would call it treason! Since threatening to denounce nuclear as a viable solution is akin to threatening to cutting down your neighbor’s powerlines, sometime in the future, exactly the same. It is also like threatening to destroy your neighbor’s planet, I mean biosphere. Isn’t that worthy of treason?
Now, the argument for solar, wind and hydro will usually counter the argument for nuclear, and indeed, we should be able to theoretically power the world with a buildup of solar to the inverse of its capacity factor plus inefficiency of storage plus ERoEI plus ESoEI (of the batteries or other storage). This means to build up the solar by about 1.25x the inverse of its CF. Which begs the question, can a renewable energy infrastructure energy pay for itself? I believe the solar is good on its word of needing only about a tenth of the energy as it’ll generate. However, I have no clue about how much energy is required for the batteries (I have guesstimate from EVs requiring more energy than ICE vehicle to make).
Thus, why would anyone not want nuclear to at least power up the mass manufacture of RE? They “cry global warming” but don’t want to do anything (worthy) about it.
France proved to the world that it and it only has cut CO2 emissions from electricity generation by like 75% (I forget exactly). And now, we have this yahoo in office threatening to shut many of them down! Why? I was “told” that he knew about global warming. However, now I know that he doesn’t care (and would rather tax the people).
It is exactly these type of policy makers (and orgs like Greenpeace) that are causing the entire world and most the species in the biosphere to face extinction. Why? I don’t know, but I do know that they must either be anti-human or anti-nature, or both. Many of them don’t even receive handouts from the FF industry, even!
So, we better learn how to deal with new ozone hole depletion and new acid rain (the result of improper SRM, because that’s better than actually using nuclear – what a bunch of…………..!
The writer makes a serious error here: “If humanity somehow managed to switch off the CO2 spigot tomorrow … geoengineers’ field could disappear.”
Global warming is caused by the energy imbalance from excess GHGs. Switching off the GHG spigot (not just CO2!) would stabilize this imbalance. However, it would remain at roughly its current level, and its damage would continue.
The key principles are these: Reducing emissions SLOWS THE INCREASE in the energy imbalance. Geoengineering REVERSES it and could eventually restore the pre-industrial balance. Until this happy day arrives, the field will be sorely needed.
The oceans already have the added heat of 5.5 to 7 billion Hiroshima sized atoms bombs from HGHGs. It is melting the Arctic sea ice like clockwork on the cover over 1500 billion toms of methane hydrate shallow shelf deposits uplifted sine the last interglacial into the danger zone of runaway releases of a methane turnover event probably worse than the Permian End MT Event. Active aerosol masking has been going on since 1997, and masking from the soots of combustion in addition and before that. Yellowstone blowing could do the cooling in time, if all the nuclear power except Gen 4 is shut down safely and to fuel Gen 4 modular for the over 100K needed CO2 to carbonate brick factories, thousands of drones to replant much of the more than 3 trillion trees cut down by humans, and OMTEC refrigeration devices enough in the Arctic to keep the ice cover safely over the shallow hydrates, and keep the Arctic cool enough to prevent the 10K swellings of CH4 from making blowholes. There are stocked underground fortresses for 30 to 50 million people to survive, while much surface life goes dormant for the long winter. An event like Toba would decrease human population rapidly by starvation and cool the oceans also quickly. Survivors of course would have to adopt an environmental morality and spirituality.
I reject forms of geoengineering that are trying to mitigate the problems but don’t take away the cause. Because as soon as you make them work, you depend on them. There is no way back, because the jump in temperature will be lethal. You better let the temperature rise when it needs to rise, so you can in some way gradually adapt to it. (if such a thing is possible)
I prefer helping / feeding / maximising the biosphere as a main form of geoengineering.
Ways to do this are:
1. feeding buoys drifting in the ocean, that slowly dissolve and feed plankton.
2. De-acidification of the oceans (applying chalk)
3. Divert fresh water into desert area’s (like a Kongo river-lake Tsjaad connection)
4. Creating salt water lagunes along seashores and wetlands, seed them with seagrass (like the Qattara depression in Egypt). 5 Green the Sahara and other deserts.
6. Stop deforestation, apply silvopasture on all grazing grounds, return all human waste into solid carbon into the soil.
7. Reduce human population. < this is actually the most important and obvious kind of geoengineering, because we are basically suffering from anthropocenic symptoms.
There is not a lot of mystery here about how to stop the threat of increasing greenhouse gases. Just stop adding them to the atmosphere, and start drawing them down from the atmosphere. That’s the essence of global climate engineering, and it’s all spelled out beautifully in Project Drawdown. The book, Drawdown, is available widely online. This is something we can do! We just need to get busy and do the many things that will mitigate greenhouse gas emissions. For example, from the book: educate women and girls in underdeveloped and developing nations, and in regions of so-called developed nations where poverty and ignorance about family planning exist. Move away from the industrial agriculture model, a model of extravagant waste, and destructive of soils. Reinvigorate depleted soils all over the world, with trees and grasses that are sinks for atmospheric CO2. Invest heavily in solar and on-shore wind farms. Modify tax incentives toward electric cars and away from fossil fuels. Impose carbon taxes on the sources of fossil fuels, to shift away from fossil fuel power plants. There are a lot more great ideas in this book, which costs less than $20. Worth every penny of it.
What could go wrong go wrong go wrong…
It’s sad to see so many smart people so thoroughly indoctrinated into the “manmade climate cataclysm catechism.” What if CO2 isn’t the culprit? What if the driver for the gradual warming that has been going on – up to 1997 but not beyond – turns out to be natural forces beyond our control. Of course SRM is going to be resisted — no one on the left wants to solve the problem without imposing socialist control over advanced economies. But studying geoengineering and exploring ways to cool the planet is wise. Another problem arises, however. If we had the ability to set the planetary thermostat, who gets to decide what temperature to set it at? Do those folks in Siberia and Alaska, who really like a warmer planet, get a say?
Geoengineering through Stratospheric Aerosol Injections are an almost daily occurrence in Colorado and all over the globe. In situ application of Solar Radiation Management has been going on with substantial documentation for more than a decade and ramping up drastically over the past couple of years. My instagram account documenting relentless applications over Colorado the past year has over 4,000 posts documenting Climate Engineering (@bringbackblueskies), My snow melt tests shows all of the heavy metals from Geoengineering patents. The sky often resembles an oil spills from the toxic nano particulate fall out, today was no exception. 1/17/19. The cover up of these Weather Engineering programs is a crime against the entire planet. The ozone layer is almost completely gone. We need heroes and disclosure. Please, tell the truth. The unintended consequences far out number the benefit of temporary cool down. Visit http://wwe.geoengineeringwatch for undeniable evidence of ongoing and escalating weather modification programs. This is urgent! #wedonotconsent
I swear to God , I cannot believe how people in this world do not see that SRM has been going on for years. There is very seldom a clear sky in Arizona. I wish someone would be brave enough to blow the whistle. That is the part I cannot get my head around.
These idiot politicians most likely know little about it.
What’s the big scare about CO2. Isnt that what our billions of plants and trees feed from.
It’s already been examined and is far too costly. Plus trying to get these cylinders into orbit would create more emissions then they captured. And it wouldn’t actually help one bit, the amount of greenhouse gasses caused by these proposals exceed what could be stored.
Pump some of the greenhouse gas into oldish gas cylinders or other containers that can hold psi. that way its not in the atmosphere. Bury them or put them in some stellites that go to the moon and beyond. Done continuously could help a bit for now.
Geoengineering is inevitable. The warming of our ocean has occurred on a geological timescale, it would be physically impossible to maintain the current sea level with emissions reductions alone. Scientists who argue otherwise view climate change as an opportunity to move toward “social justice” Deep down, even they know that island nations like Jamaica or Bangladesh have no chance without geoengineering. Thank you for this article and thanks to the hard working scientists and academics who are literally saving humanity.
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