You have to find some excuse to defend a 3000 years of reservation in education and the benefit to human kind is nincompoop. BTW we are just jealous of the achievements of the West and our ego is getting through our skin and it showing up. Now if we did not have that kind of reservation then the Western world would be doing their education in India instead of the other way round. Very clever abstraction just does not cut it.
As an Irishman I presume I run the risk of being perceived by many Indians as a “white slave” – or perhaps worse still, a “white slave master! – but, while I have no idea who Ruchi Kumar is, I would ask all of his detractors above to ask one simple question “Where is the evidence?” . No matter where that evidence originated, check it out – particularly if you think it might be influenced or tainted by its source. Then form a rational conclusion FOR YOURSELF based on the evidence and especially NOT on any prior bias that may have been instilled in you by ANYONE ELSE PARTICULARLY FAMILY OR CO-RELIGIONISTS. Continually check the reasons for your conclusions and exclude any motivation based on desire to be true or, worse still, your childhood brainwashing. That is the sole way that your country can advance. I would suggest you seriously consider my personal contention that religiously motivated beliefs have been the curse of the past millennium and nationalistic beliefs the curse of the past century to all of which you owe no automatic allegiance. Please consider joining the rest of the Human Race as broad minded world citizens.
Wherever the pre-cursors of modern science originated, they are irrelevant to current scientific investigations.
For example, knowledge of ancient or not so ancient primary sources are not needed to understand the current state of a science.
A physicist need not spend any time reading Newton’s Principia in learning physics today.
Similarly, Mendel’s writings are not part of the syllabus of a course in modern genetics.
If the anti-science/pseudoscience advocates referred to in the article were only interested in the diverse roots of scientific knowledge, and specifically with the Ancient Indian roots of this knowledge, this would be a benign activity.
Unfortunately, they are motivated by religion and nationalism, and question the validity of current science.
White – western slaves like Ruchi Kumar can’t digest the fact that Indians could cite to their own valid indigenous historic scientific resources. These White slaves can’t question for a moment the authencity of Western white historic sources of Archimedes, Pithagoras, Galileo and their likes? Why can’t you question and call these sources as pseudoscience? You can accept the roaming around nude “Eureka” story of Archimedes as indeed science but not the valid scientific theories presented in ancient Hindu scriptures? White slaves like Ruchi are so blinded by the white skin and the European ideals of so called “Science” they will even happily feast on loads of human excrements if a White man calls it a delicacy. It is that kind of slave mentality that these so called journalist mongers are made of. According to these idiots, a scientist can be accepted as a real scientist only if he is recognised as such by a White man or a White institution? If Srinivasa Ramanujam had remained in India and had not left for England, these idiots would even call him as pseudo-mathematician.
Govind Haridas, your comment validates Ruchi Kumar’s article.
Ruchi Kumar kudos to you and do keep on highlighting the intellectual bankruptcy of the present political dispensation and their cognitively-challenged followers, the previous gentleman being a prime example.
There is no denying the fact that India has produced, centuries ago, many scholars, scientists, astronomers, mathematicians, philosophers who were far ahead of their contemporaries in the world. However, unfortunately, in most meeting of the above type, they hardly find a mention. By claiming achievements which would not have been there, we not only become a laughing stock but also demean the enormous contributions of some of our great thinkers and scientists.
It is a clash of religions. The Enlightenment spawned a Modernist religion that states “we have never been smarter, richer, technologically savvy than we are today.” In contrast Medieval philosophers harkened back to world where Roman engineering produced engineering feats they could only marvel at–the Coliseum, the aqueducts, the hot-and-cold running water. Not until the 14th century, or 1000 years later, did European lifestyles approach the golden age of Rome. And Rome itself looked back to the 7 wonders of the world that even their engineers marvelled at–the Colossus, the pyramids, the hanging gardens. But in our Enlightened age, we never look back. And like Lot’s wife, we punish those who do.
Nevertheless, there are many examples of lost technology, lost wisdom. The 200-ton blocks of stone that comprise the Great Pyramid of Giza are aligned within 0.1 degrees of north, and so closely spaced that a knife cannot be inserted between them. Such engineering might be accomplished today with cranes the size of the space shuttle, but at an estimated expense of over $1bn. But you know the government–they would probably settle for 1-degree placement and filler concrete. And that’s my point entirely, not only the technology, but the will power was there. Or to say it differently, technology and will power/money are inversely correlated–if the Egyptians did it, it had to involve technology much further along than our own, or a will-power (dare I say purpose?) much more advanced than our own.
Now I segue into a bare-faced commercial. “The Long Ascent” by Robert Sheldon, attempts to trace the evidence to the source of that advanced technology. The first volume makes the case that an advanced civilization lived in the dried-out basin of the Mediterranean from 11,900 – 9590 BC. The 2nd volume (in press) discusses the many maps they left of their homeland. The 3rd volume (in preparation) discusses their technology that built the Pyramids, that flew airplanes to Peru, that mastered gas-core nuclear thrusters. And to my greatest surprise, every ancient mythology turns out to be a story about that race. In fact, all myth (that I have studied) is a retelling of that same history.
If the pyramids were only a legend the author would claim it was impossible the ancient Egyptians could have built them. But there they are, and mainstream academics get a free pass for their inability to explain them. That’s just one example, there are thousands. Pretending they didn’t happen is not an option, and the sheer volume of “inexplicable” ancient scientific achievements argues against dismissing out of hand any one not documented beyond any reasonable doubt.
In the age of CRISPR (& plastic surgery) the modification of humans to become any number of creatures is ongoing.
I saw a program on magnetic pole shifts that stated a possibility of increased eletromagnetic activity in the Earth’s field including more than two magnetic poles and auroras over many regions. Given that our greatest scientific achievements have occurred in a span of roughly 200 years, it is plausible that the ancients might have achieved technological and scientific prowness and tapped into energies and methods similar or different from current technologies. All we have are stories from the past, but there appears to be something there to explore further.
Both the movement you criticize and its attempted negation are wrong. The fact is that genuine discoveries of Indian astronomers, mathematicians, physicists, metallurgists and architects -centuries before their discovery or re-discovery in Europe- are being ignored in India’s STEM curricula. All you have to do is to recognize and reinstate them. You don’t need to embellish them by unproven conjectures and mythical legends. But you DO need to teach ancient Indian discoveries. Examples are the speed of light, the diameter of the Earth, Moon and Sun, the zero, the decimal place value system, Pythagoras’ theorem, infinite series, as well as temple design and architecture, pigments, advanced textiles, incense and perfumes, and hundreds of herbs and spices.
It is CRUCIAL for India’s progress that students take justified pride in India. But exaggerating myths is not the way to do it. NEITHER is the current teaching where everything worthwhile originated in the West.
The ideology that existed since ages with an intention to traumatized the scientific perspective of a comman man which promotes to tie a blindfold with his own hands and believe this ideology as his saviour. This mentality has deviated our country’s direction of advancement.
Ruchi Kumar…you are just another nincompoop masquerading as an intellectual. I ain’t gonna rebutt your article cos I really value my time. One should never recite Vedas in the ears of a buffalo. Whether you and your ilk believe it or not…or subscribe to it or not..India is the Spiritual capital of the world and by default Hindus are the keepers of that glorious legacy.
We rule the country and we will say and do whatever the heck we want to. Liberals like you be damned !!!
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