Why the museum in Egypt Cairo still does not include the Kushites as the 25th dynasty of the Egyptian Kingdom ?
Racism is a fact indeed.
Inferior complexity is another aspect of the same issue.
Two sides of a coin.
It is human nature which inherently ingrained in us !
The psychology of denial is another aspect and pathological envy too…
Calling “Nubians” Black pharaohs is a back-handed way of saying the Egyptians weren’t Black or that they weren’t other “Black” Pharaohs. But how can that be when Ancient Egypt is in Africa and got its start in what is now called the Sudan. I went to school (70s) with people from the Sudan and they told my family about the Pyramids, ancient Nubia…etc.
I have to join my to those that spoke before me in expressing my profound gratitude for this very expository article.
Most often than not, things like this die away without anyone’s knowledge.
Thank you Amy for talking about the underrated pyramids in Sudan. Believe it or not, but my parents are Sudanese, but they’re from the south, which is now called South Sudan. It’s kind of crazy how in the past none of the archaeologists thought that the Nubians built and designed those pyramids. Anyways, thank you!
As an Afro-Caribbean, I feel is great to let the world know the accomplishment of African civilization, because, of all the races on the globe the one from the black continent is the less appreciated. All ethnic and/or race group had contributed to the knowledge the modern society had, and they need to receive credit for their accomplishment as well as the European have received their acknowledgment.
This is indeed an enthralling journey for those archeologists , excavators, linguistics and others to know , to discover and of course to bring the light upon the lost part of HISTORY. Its almost like fixing a puzzle without any clue. Starting a fresh with all difficulties from nature to politics. That’s why truly every discovery is important as we know nothing before.
I think it’s incredible how interracial marriage was seen as their downfall in the early 19th century. What is even more incredible is that interracial marriage was a thing then, despite racisn, the Nubian people married outside their race. As a person whose parents are still against interracial marriage, that stuck out to me the most.
It’s sad how great civilization, like the Nubian, are lost and forgotten in our textbooks and replaced with the age of colonization and slavery. Why do we want our youth to learn about the evils in humanity when they can learn about love?
Wow, what a great article thanks. I’ve been all over the Middle East and small parts of Africa. This is a great story and well researched, thanks very much for bringing it to us-
Enjoy Class, record history before its all earased
good stuff. I will make sure to bookmark your blog.
Fascinating article! Well done, Amy Maxmen. My friend, Stephanie Jefferson, wrote a series of fictional young adult novels about ancient Nubia. I’ll share this with her.
Good Information, thank for sharing
I was expecting a better quality of commentary on this Web-site instead it is brimming with juvenile pseudo-intellectual ignorance and broad uninformed statements made without references.
I find it SO FUNNY that you are basically dismissing Nile Valley Civilizations, because there are mountains of documentation showing that the Very Greeks you’re praising actually REVERED the Egyptians, Nubians and Ethiopians. The Greeks called them civilized, but called the Northerners, the people you descend from, Barbarians because all they knew how to do was steal [and] kill.
And in my opinion many Northern Europeans are still Barbarians because this whole global system of racism, which was created by them, is still perpetuated today and when you actually think about what it means to believe in that, it’s totally illogical. It is literally a regression in the mentality and societal norms that the most of the “ancient world” held, Greece included.
P.S. – the only reason why the Greeks were such a big deal is because we live in a globally Eurocentric dominated society. If it were dominated by Asians then the Ancient Chinese and Persians would be the big deal, etc.
I’m a Papua New Guinea in the south Pacific and we have been colonized by western Christianity so I’m interested to know the original truth,
Very interesting article. I learned more than I ever knew about this region.
I think, however, that when you referred to “Magnetometers” that you meant “Ground Penetrating Radar”.
The former detect changes in magnetic fields due to the presence of metallic substrates, or fields. These do NOT detect rocks, bricks or anything else that is not magnetically active.
The latter measures differences in soil density due to having been disturbed by human activity.
MY KINGDOM FOR A TIME MACHINE!
A well-researched well-presented article that takes yet one more necessary step in the ongoing process of what could be called “the optometry of understanding.” That incremental but inevitable correction of our vision of the world/universe and its history comes only with often upsetting recognition of self-centric flaw in our worldview that makes us myopically miss the inconvenient long-view truth that “WE are not the center of all that is.”
‘Brava!’ to author Amy Maxmen (and conscious commenter Nimfa,) who ideas might have been, (like dark-skinned Nubians,) dismissed as the inconsequential babble of any not upper-class males of European descent.
From Galileo’s permanent house arrest for his heliocentric heresy (“It still moves!”) to Darwin’s ‘Descent of Man’ from Divine Uniqueness, to Jefferson’s notion of ‘all men are created equal’ to Lincoln’s striking of the unspoken adjective “white, land-owning” to Anthony’s and Stanton’s successful struggles to upgrade “man” to “human” to Freud’s, Jung’s and James’ dethroning of the vaunted but imaginary ‘self’ to Einstein’s abolishing the myth of ‘absolute’ for merely ‘relative’ space and time to Bohr, Heisenberg et al discarding determinism for quantum uncertainty to Hubbell’s dismissal of our Milky Way as not the totality nor even the center of the universe but just one ordinary galaxy among at least a trillion others, smaller or larger than our own 200 billion stars, in what modern astrophysical cosmology calls “the principle of mediocrity,” i.e., “WE ain’t so special.”
The incremental dethroning of the Sistine Chapel’s White Male Center of All Creation to just one species of less-hairy ape – sometimes “the stuff that dreams are made of” but just as often “what a [nasty] piece of work is Man” – continues each year as the conceptual optometry of modern science and technology correct and extends our sight and scope. Tomorrow’s issue of Science (23 FEB 2018) debunks the persistent H. sapiens-centric view that our species alone exhibits genuine the symbolic thinking necessary for art and ‘true feeling.’ The paper by an international team of scientists, (“U-Th dating of carbonate crusts reveals Neandertal origin of Iberian cave art,” science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6378/912,) uses isotopic techniques beyond conventional radiocarbon dating to determine the age of cave paintings in three Spanish sites as 64kya-66kya (thousands years ago,) conclusively excluding early Homo sapiens as the artist, since WE arrived only 40kya. That leaves one species of hominin then living in Spain at– not “WE the humans” but those Neanderthals we’ve so long dismissed as “NOT US.”
i love your lucid comprehensive commentary.
I sometimes feel we are in a race not against time but against self-destruction due to our collective ignorance.
Thanks for a detailed look at a fascinating piece of the past.
History is written by the victor at the expense of the victim. Peaceful civilizations that co-existed side by side for thousands of years were attacked and overwhelmed by a war like people who lived to conquer, enslave and destroy. Trying to debate the scientific accomplishment of ancient European society and ancient African society is the equivalent of comparing a high school P.E. teacher to Neil Degrasse Tyson. Ancient Greek and Roman ‘civilizations’ were governed by a violence dominant culture that gave birth to great armies which swept across the known world killing and pillaging. Yes these civilization had artistic,scientific, and philosophic innovation as well but the culture as a whole was resistant to forward thinking and scientific breakthroughs. We see that with the way Socrates was murdered on trial for his intelligence or even more recently the notion of a round earth was met with calls to burn the heretics. Ancient Egyptian culture worked out the earth was round a long time ago evidence is in the dimensions of the great pyramid. The funniest part of this article is that it feeds into the same thing of which it tries to speak negatively. Mentioning the intermarriage of lighter skinned Egyptians. This is a completely made up concept. One that was made up by the same archeologists that believed Negroid’s could never aspire to create such a civilization. The whole concept of a lighter Egyptian race was developed to explain the discoveries is Egypt, but as far as I’m concerned the pictures they painted of themselves as a darker people speaks volumes. The civilizations of Ancient Africa were guided by intellectual, religious, academic, artistic and scientific pursuits. The only thing that Europeans can claim superiority in is the art of killing and war. Killing all the smart people doesn’t make you smarter, it just makes you what is left.
We are all disgusting monsters. Following simple uniformitarianism, I cannot imagine that our ancient ancestors were any better or worse than ourselves. Sure the Doric invasions destroyed what appeared to be a cool civilization, but I doubt the pre-Dorics were angels. The devils among us now have bigger stones to bash in the heads of their kinder brothers and sisters.
Interesting article but could have tried a lot harder to find local archaeologists and commentators – The one local archaeologist quoted is used almost entirely to illustrate local beliefs and politics while the ‘real science’ is quoted from European and American researchers.
Could do better…
Thank you for all the work you’ve put into this article! Our vision of the past is shaped by those who write about it and for too long history was written by a few affluent white males. Any non-white, native tribes around the world were depicted as violent, naked savages by archeologist of the last and preceding centuries. I am surprised there is still so much resistance to changing that point of view, but for every negative comment that you get, know that there are many other readers who enjoy your reporting.
I’m hoping Nubian history might get more interest because of the huge popularity of the superhero film Black Panther, which is set in Africa. That would be cool as heck,lol.
Amazing the (willfull and deliberate) ignorance that abounds here. Yes, whites lied to the world and themselves and now you have whites harping about how dismissed history is somehow encroaching on their beliefs – despite their understanding of the world as being largely a myth and elaborated. It is sad to see humans behave so selfishly and narcissitic. How small and cowardly one has to be to reject findings from archeologists who wish to reveal the truth about our history instead of disonoring themseleves with ethnocentric loyalties and bias. I resent the efforts of selfish humans to distort history and push for ways to obfuscate and obliterate that which they disagree with – as in Sudan and their destructive dam. May our children replace these corrupt persons and instill best practices and interests in the name of all humanity – not just the pale ones.
If you propose Earth to be billions of years old then you must be joking when you think civilization began in Africa or Europe a few thousand years ago. There is no trace of Earth 4000B.C. except perhaps diamonds and other rocks. Stonehenge? How about Atlantis?
The oldest hominid bodies were found very long ago in Africa this is why they say civilization started in what we call Africa today. It is undeniable that the oldest humanoids traveled out of Africa.
Your holy book, which you think has all the answers to all of man’s questions, is an uncollated hodge-podge of ancient Middle Eastern mythology which you don’t even understand. But go ahead and keep hiding in the dark cave of your ignorance, you and your ilk are now completely irrelevant.
What’s with the racist subheading?
Ironic it is white scientists who are vilified for dismissing this great ancient culture.. .. where are the black scientists and where have the black scientists been ??
If you actually read the article you would’ve seen the very prominent image of a clearly black scientist who is working to help preserve these artifacts.
It’s Black History Month—here are the pioneering black scientists whose inventions and discoveries enriched both America and the world—despite the fact that barriers were thrown in their way, and not always getting the very few opportunities open to them due to flat-out discrimination—which is what the first black scientists always were forced to deal with,regardless of their skills/talents. Anyway,you could have looked this up yourself in 2.5 seconds like I did.
It is odd that our current grandiose plans to move into outer space, an incredible allien environment to all that is Carbon based
And ,Shaped by millions of years of evolution, ignores the very planet that spawned us.
Rather the learn we destroy, rather then share we hoard. Be it money ,knowledge or resources. Rather understand the limitations of
Materialism. We keep producing and polluting.
Rather intelligent well planned birth control, we birth ourselves out of house resources and our planet. Rather then make e everyone welcome we are still stuck behind the arrogance of colour.which after all is merely wall paper.
To value colour, wallpaper, over substance, makes us exactly what we are ?Horrible species.
Greedy to a point that self distruction is only matter of time .
We don’t respect what we built and are built to raze what we do not understand or refuse to understand.
Camus , now you know you are going to die ,the futility of it all. We wish for immortality not
understanding that with good evil will be immortal as well.
From Vlad the Impaler, Hitler ,Stalin ,the Pot Pal regime.
We are and will become cannibals of all that we know.
Poetic nonsense as the liberal college-knowledge bound academic cowards are know for. If we are not to forget our pasty, then explain the leftists’ attempts to erase American history by removing and/or destroying Confederate statues and assaulting our flag and even our National Anthem. Hypocrisy – thy name is tenure. Actually for living in the part of this region for 8.5 years, the problem is simple – we are holding back millions for bones…and one of their own rules the country with an iron fist. Here like in South Africa and before in Liberia point out what we back in the USA fear to acknowledge as truth – male tribalistic primitive cultural norms still prevail where the strong man rules and life is cheap. No difference here or in Chicago -genetic or just a refusal to assimilate, what does one expect.
So try preserving our own national history and identity first in the EU, UK and USA. Without our present societies and values which are under assault by the liberal NWO Nazis, none of these activities or even values would exist. Remember the Aswan dam and what that entailed – how did we save some of what was far more precious?
There are no words or sentiment to address your selfish and hateful beliefs. Extermination is still on the table for those of you who repeatedly invoke the race card, racism, bigotry, white nativism and the idiotic sense that you are somehow ‘strong’, ‘manly’, more deserving of others whose cultures stem farther back and gave birth to all we know now. I’m open-minded to deportation of such ignorance and feebleness. America and the EU would certainly benefit from the removal of your hateful species. Selfish loser.
European and American history has already been well-preserved for hundreds of years. The history of Nubia was dismissed simply because racist white archaeologists, in their ignorance and arrogance, didn’t think that black people could have created their own civilization. You sound just like them, claiming again that Nubia isn’t worth studying simply because its creators were black. I’m American, and let’s be real—you’re just another racist right winger who can’t accept the fact that white people didn’t create every great civilization in the world, or every great history, for that matter. First of all, nobody is destroying any Confederate statues—they are being put in museums. And kneeling before the flag is not disrespecting it at all. Bottom line is, the only reason we don’t know a lot about Nubia is because these white archaeologist didn’t care about it that much, and weren’t exactly trying to preserve it. But your little right-wing racist diatribe wasn’t even needed here, so move on,please.
So sad how European intellectuals decided all non whites were ignorant savages.Look at northern Europe before Roman era. They were the savages . A similar thing was done to American Indians . It is good they expose the truth . Shalom.
Indeed I know. Life as we know it began in two places – the fertile crescent of course and in Europe. I speak of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal – because if you sequence us that bias still comes out – we get our Neanderthal alright – and if you’re African American it comes back into sub-Saharan and such.
So Stonehenge, older than the pyramids, was built by savages?
Now, now Robert. Let the critics critique. It’s a release for them, an opportunity to vent.
Stone age does not have any architecture or a work done based on blueprint like Egyptian pyramids. Stone age does not show civilization, just a ritual place. There were no libraries with books on science and culture in Europe at the time (Egypt had the Alexandrian Library – a great loss for humanity when burned). What could you say we had in Europe at the time? We Europeans should not have thin skin because we were anticipated by civilized societies. History is history. We cannot deny it because we think we are the vanguard of the world at this moment and time. Today Europe is the one that holds the “flag ” of the modern society, but that does not imply we were ahead of other civilizations throughout the history of human civilization. We have had our moment for more than 10 decades, a moment that in 2000-5000 years from now we might not be able to hold. There might be another part of the world that will surpass us and become the new civilization that will bring our world to a higher level. That where the expression of, “The rise and the fall” comes from. Each civilized society has its moment, it rises and reaches a point when it is not able to keep up with the change the times require and unfortunately it experiences its downfall. Hopefully does not happen that way! Let’s hope that the western democracy will be capable to resist the times and help the rest of the world to rise to its standards to make our planet e better place for mankind.
Northern Europeans contemporary with Romans were savages? Because the Romans had uniforms and the North Europeans didn’t? What’s more, how do we know the Nubians were dark-skinned? Do we have images, like we do of Egyptians? And what is so great about a civilization whose largest monumental buildings are simple tombs for absolutist rulers? Classical Greece surpassed the entire ancient world in art, technology, and government in just one century.
The point is,Nubian history was ignored and dismissed because it wasn’t white European history—that’s why we’re still learning about what remains of its history. Did you even bother to read the article? There was more to Nubian civilization that monuments and tombs (which are a sign of a civilization,like Egypt.) Once again, you’e just dismissing anything Nubian because it’s not about white European history. How close-minded and ignorant of you.
So, you’re saying a civilization isn’t worth studying if its people aren’t white or light-skinned enough for you? Get over yourself and your stupid racism,please. This is the 21st century—that kind of thinking is so outdated and ridiculous,I have to laugh at you.
Why was the Greek learning center Alexandria in Egypt?
Because when Alexander the Great went on a conquering binge, he decided to leave a lot of cities in his trail bearing his name. I don’t see how it’s relevant.
The name isn’t important but the location surely is. The Greeks had a learning center in Egypt because that is where the knowledge stemmed from.
…. i saw the remaims of huge encampment near Gebeit – dozens of grinding stones remained there until 1995
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